1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,000 I haven't got a couple of the pennies here, but they sound pretty good. 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:12,000 One of them I got to witness myself finally, and this is something unbelievable. 3 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,000 I couldn't believe my own eyes. 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:19,000 This was on September 25th, and I'm still working on it. 5 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:23,000 I've got another witness to interview you. 6 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:28,000 But this thing was seen over north, ever. 7 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:35,000 A guy called me, I was working police dispatch about 8.30 on that night. 8 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:45,000 A guy called me up and they were watching this strange object do some aerial acrobatics out just north of town about a quarter mile away from the residence. 9 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:51,000 A guy said it had some lights on it, blue, red, and white wood sent me and me to the airplane. 10 00:00:51,000 --> 00:01:01,000 So I just bashed an officer out there, but the officer got there and the thing had disappeared to the south for a little bit. 11 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:05,000 And then I got a burger or a robbery or something, had to call him off. 12 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:09,000 But it came back, and the guy called me back. 13 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:16,000 And so I called all the airports around and they informed me that there were two late planes up in the area. 14 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:20,000 I wish this guy did a thorough along with this thing. 15 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:30,000 So anyhow, it was zipping around pretty fast, covering a standing one spot, moving at a fast rate of speed, you know, from where it was 30 miles away and back. 16 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:31,000 Yes. 17 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:40,000 And so anyhow, I couldn't take it anymore, so I had to do a provisional leave and I went up on the fourth floor of the courthouse, which you can see the whole area. 18 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:45,000 And I looked around, and I immediately saw the two plane buzzed around. 19 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:49,000 And I thought, ready to give it up, I couldn't see anything. 20 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:56,000 Jesus, all of a sudden right there in front of me is this very big, well, first they saw the lights. 21 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,000 There's three of them. 22 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,000 And this thing was kind of coming down in a spiral. 23 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,000 It looked to be about 3,000 feet up in here. 24 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,000 This was directly east of me from here. 25 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,000 Okay. 26 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:14,000 Okay, this thing, this spiral down to about 1,500 feet, very slowly. 27 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:18,000 And when it got to the bottom, it just stopped and hung there. 28 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,000 It was about 1,500. 29 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:31,000 And at that time, I could see the two lights in front and one in the rear, but they weren't like airplane lights, you know, they were kind of like a flood light, all of them going down. 30 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,000 Yes. 31 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:33,000 And they were pulsating. 32 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:40,000 They would stretch out to about maybe 100 feet or maybe further, just my estimation. 33 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,000 And then get them back down to nothing. 34 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:49,000 And when they get almost down to them, I can make up this big outline like a shield or a bullet, you know. 35 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,000 Uh-huh. 36 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,000 And by this time, I just bleed my eyes. 37 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,000 There's no sound, no nothing. 38 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,000 So I watched it first in all of a few minutes. 39 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:08,000 And the thing takes off again and retraces the spiral right back up to about 3,000 feet. 40 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:09,000 Oh boy. 41 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:16,000 Now then, I guess it's about where it was when I first saw it. 42 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:23,000 The thing kind of pulsating kind of stopped and it kind of lowered a little bit, you know. 43 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,000 Real strange light. 44 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,000 I've never seen anything like it on anything. 45 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,000 I can't even describe the type of light it was. 46 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:36,000 Then, you know, it moved off to the north. 47 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:40,000 And went way out over the valley there, hung there for a minute. 48 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:44,000 And then this baby comes right back towards me. 49 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:49,000 Goes right over my head, I would say, less than a thousand feet. 50 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:53,000 Went by me, went to the south town here a little bit. 51 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:59,000 And then started doing some funny generations up, down, ahead, you know. 52 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,000 And then nothing, just blanked out, was gone. 53 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,000 Yeah. What time was this, Jerry? 54 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,000 This was at 8.35. 55 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:11,000 Now, about 8.40, I would say, when I got up on the roof. 56 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:12,000 Okay. 57 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,000 Now, when this thing went over my head, there was, that's really no sound. 58 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:24,000 And it was just an eerie feeling, let me tell you. 59 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:29,000 And I thought I would possibly be able to identify something at that time. 60 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:33,000 But all the lights seemed to be, when it went over me, 61 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,000 they all seemed to be melded in together or something. 62 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,000 Yeah, that's... 63 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:42,000 Kind of a funny, not like a laid, but more of a glowy thing. 64 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,000 Yeah, like a band later on. 65 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:48,000 Well, let's say that, I just, just, just weird. 66 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,000 Yeah. 67 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,000 I thought if I ever got to see anything like this, 68 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,000 I'd be able to really get a good report. 69 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:59,000 But I was dumbfounded to say the least. 70 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,000 I can understand that. 71 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:07,000 But the lights didn't seem to... 72 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,000 I don't know, I can't describe it. 73 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,000 They weren't real bright. 74 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:15,000 They were more of a dull color, but they... 75 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,000 Anyhow, the one light, when I was sitting out there, 76 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:22,000 one light was kind of a blueish-green color. 77 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:28,000 The other light right next to it seemed to be on the edge of the sun. 78 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:32,000 It was kind of an orange-y color. 79 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:36,000 And the one on the back was kind of a, in between a red and a white. 80 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:40,000 A little funny kind of light. 81 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:45,000 And like I say, when they want to get my bright stuff, 82 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,000 it seemed like everything just went together and just projected 83 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:52,000 a big thing way out away from the craft on downward. 84 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,000 Right, this is it. 85 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,000 Really something. 86 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,000 I was dumbfounded to say this, and I couldn't hardly dispatch. 87 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,000 You were lucky, you were lucky, man. 88 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:10,000 Oh yeah, that's the first time I ever think I'd get in on something like that. 89 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:14,000 But if I hadn't been a busy night, you know, 90 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,000 and I could have kept the officer there, 91 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,000 I could have got a report from him too. 92 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,000 But anyhow, I went out and got a report from Mr. Roosa, 93 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,000 who lives out north of town here, 94 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:27,000 and had him make out a report, sign a statement and everything. 95 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:32,000 And then I got a hold of one of the neighbors up there. 96 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:36,000 And their kids, evidently, were watching this thing for quite some time 97 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:41,000 before the people noticed it out their window. 98 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:46,000 And I had them make up, these are kids 13 and 14, 99 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:52,000 live up the street, but I hadn't made up a report anyhow. 100 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:57,000 And also, when I got to talk to this guy three times, no, 101 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,000 and when I got out there to talk to him, 102 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:06,000 he told me that one of these planes appeared to try to close in on this thing. 103 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:10,000 He said it came around and came up behind it 104 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:16,000 and was flying along in the same flight path, probably about a mile apart. 105 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,000 When all of a sudden this thing just increased the speed 106 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:23,000 and was 30 miles away within a matter of seconds. 107 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:30,000 So I tried to find out who was in the planes up there that night so far. 108 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,000 I haven't had any luck. 109 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:39,000 Evidently, Payne said that they had two planes in sight in that area. 110 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:46,000 And the homies had a plane up and Arlington had a plane up. 111 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,000 But everybody's kind of just on me in that direction. 112 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:55,000 I'm not sure if they'll get anything out of the pilot or not. 113 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,000 That was beautiful. 114 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:02,000 That's the good report. 115 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,000 I also have another one here that's fairly good. 116 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,000 I think it's pretty credible. 117 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:14,000 Instead of running up your telephone bill, Jerry, why don't we just drop up and see you? 118 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,000 You're going to be off. 119 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,000 I'm going to work today and I'll be off for three. 120 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,000 That means you'll be off tomorrow and Sunday. 121 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,000 You got anything planned for tomorrow? 122 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,000 No, I'm keeping it open. 123 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:32,000 I've had so much to do and I've been training extra and working extra down there at the job. 124 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:36,000 And everything's finally straightened out to where I got some time. 125 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:40,000 I'm going to be able to get people a little more back into it again. 126 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:45,000 So I've been trying to keep up with everything that's going on up here. 127 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,000 But that's about all I've been able to handle. 128 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,000 That's a one-man job anyway. 129 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,000 How about tomorrow morning? 130 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,000 I'll do it. 131 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,000 Would 10 be too early? 132 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,000 I get off work at 8 o'clock. 133 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,000 Oh, anytime. 134 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:03,000 Okay, I'll get Jacob and we'll come right up there. 135 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,000 Great sounds good. 136 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:06,000 Okay, how's your family? 137 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,000 Oh, everybody's good. 138 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,000 Glambo's working every day. 139 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,000 Kids are going to school. 140 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,000 We never see each other. 141 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,000 But these days. 142 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,000 Still on the same roof anyway. 143 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,000 Oh, yeah. 144 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,000 Okay, we'll see you tomorrow morning. 145 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:26,000 Hey, sounds good. 146 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,000 Thanks a lot, Jerry. 147 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,000 You betcha. 148 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,000 Okay, bye.